Can You be My BOY Friend?
So yes, Gian, I’m back from the trip. It was great, and I think I did a pretty good job being myself, all in all. I got along with the guys well, although I fear I might have talked a few of them to death. My girl and I had no real issues, which actually was a surprise. I let her see my crazier side, and she didn’t freak out. In fact she joined in a bit, so it was cool. Sorry to report that I didn’t do anything too wild (well… made out w/ one guy in the club, but that’s hardly worth any excitement!) Other than a bit of a hangover from overdrinking my first night, it was a pretty mellow trip. One thing did happen that I want to write about though.
At dinner one night, for some reason I started talking about which of my guy friends I thought was the least attracted to me. That discussion sparked a question about who I thought might be the most attracted to me. I was at a loss about how to answer that, worried about the repercussions the answer might bring. Thankfully others were caught off guard too, so there was a bit of a ruckus, and I got off the hook without having to say anything. But it got me thinking about a theory that I’ve heard time and time again, about friendships between men and women.
Chris Rock says that men and women can never really truly be friends. According to him, basically any man that acts like your friend is just waiting for his chance to screw you. I don’t know if I believe that, but I read something else that I do agree with. In I Wish I had a Red Dress, by Pearl Cleage, one character lays out an idea about the ways men and women can be friends. Basically there are four different relationships, all based on sexual attraction. I didn’t wanna mess this up, so I actually referred back to the book.
First, both people can openly acknowledge that there’s some sort of attraction. This normally ends up with them going at it at some point, unless there is some type of obstacle that stands in their way, like a marriage. Obviously, this hardly ever ends in a real platonic friendship, because love/lust gets in the way.
Next is where only one party is attracted to the other. This type of relationship can last for a long time, with both parties getting along just fine. Then one day, the undercover admirer reaches a breaking point, and it all comes out. Definitely a delicate situation, and one that happens all the time. You’re hanging out with some guy/chick you think is cool, and the next minute someone’s making a declaration of love! It’s hard to bounce back after that, and this normally signifies the end of that relationship.
So what if neither party is attracted to the other? Well in this case, the friendship is doomed to fail. Normally these relationships are pretty simple and surface. When their reason for existence is removed, they just sort of dwindle and fade away. I think of this as the guys that I work with. We’re cool, but I don’t make attempts to spend quality extracurricular time.
Finally, there’s the one that I relate to the most. It where there’s some underlying pull between the pair, but both parties are unable and/or unwilling to act on those feelings. That energy is transferred into developing other types of connections, and creates the bond of friendship between the two. This is where real, deep friendships come from.
This is hardly a new topic, but this presentation really caught my attention, and I’ve kept it in the back of my mind ever since. The more I think about it, the more that I believe that it’s true. I’ve evaluated just about every relationship I have with a man, and excepting those with family members, I could classify them in one of these categories.
It’s easy to discount this at first glance, especially if you equate sexual attraction primarily with physical attraction. For me, I know that’s not always true. Hell, it's not even mostly true. Yes, a guy may be the hottest man in the room, causing a physical attraction. But another can make me laugh, cheer me up, and lift my spirits, appealing to me on an emotional level. And still another can intrigue me intellectually, challenge what I believe, and draw me mentally. I’m sure there are other types of attraction, but these would definitely be things I look for in a guy I’d date. And if they have any of the same feelings for me, then we have a match. Ironically, that doesn’t necessarily mean a romantic interest, because I wouldn’t dream of dating most of them.
But the underlying attraction is still what makes our friendship possible.
So if you read this, I’d like to know what you think. Do you think that men and women can be friends, no strings attached? Let me know!
At dinner one night, for some reason I started talking about which of my guy friends I thought was the least attracted to me. That discussion sparked a question about who I thought might be the most attracted to me. I was at a loss about how to answer that, worried about the repercussions the answer might bring. Thankfully others were caught off guard too, so there was a bit of a ruckus, and I got off the hook without having to say anything. But it got me thinking about a theory that I’ve heard time and time again, about friendships between men and women.
Chris Rock says that men and women can never really truly be friends. According to him, basically any man that acts like your friend is just waiting for his chance to screw you. I don’t know if I believe that, but I read something else that I do agree with. In I Wish I had a Red Dress, by Pearl Cleage, one character lays out an idea about the ways men and women can be friends. Basically there are four different relationships, all based on sexual attraction. I didn’t wanna mess this up, so I actually referred back to the book.
First, both people can openly acknowledge that there’s some sort of attraction. This normally ends up with them going at it at some point, unless there is some type of obstacle that stands in their way, like a marriage. Obviously, this hardly ever ends in a real platonic friendship, because love/lust gets in the way.
Next is where only one party is attracted to the other. This type of relationship can last for a long time, with both parties getting along just fine. Then one day, the undercover admirer reaches a breaking point, and it all comes out. Definitely a delicate situation, and one that happens all the time. You’re hanging out with some guy/chick you think is cool, and the next minute someone’s making a declaration of love! It’s hard to bounce back after that, and this normally signifies the end of that relationship.
So what if neither party is attracted to the other? Well in this case, the friendship is doomed to fail. Normally these relationships are pretty simple and surface. When their reason for existence is removed, they just sort of dwindle and fade away. I think of this as the guys that I work with. We’re cool, but I don’t make attempts to spend quality extracurricular time.
Finally, there’s the one that I relate to the most. It where there’s some underlying pull between the pair, but both parties are unable and/or unwilling to act on those feelings. That energy is transferred into developing other types of connections, and creates the bond of friendship between the two. This is where real, deep friendships come from.
This is hardly a new topic, but this presentation really caught my attention, and I’ve kept it in the back of my mind ever since. The more I think about it, the more that I believe that it’s true. I’ve evaluated just about every relationship I have with a man, and excepting those with family members, I could classify them in one of these categories.
It’s easy to discount this at first glance, especially if you equate sexual attraction primarily with physical attraction. For me, I know that’s not always true. Hell, it's not even mostly true. Yes, a guy may be the hottest man in the room, causing a physical attraction. But another can make me laugh, cheer me up, and lift my spirits, appealing to me on an emotional level. And still another can intrigue me intellectually, challenge what I believe, and draw me mentally. I’m sure there are other types of attraction, but these would definitely be things I look for in a guy I’d date. And if they have any of the same feelings for me, then we have a match. Ironically, that doesn’t necessarily mean a romantic interest, because I wouldn’t dream of dating most of them.
But the underlying attraction is still what makes our friendship possible.
So if you read this, I’d like to know what you think. Do you think that men and women can be friends, no strings attached? Let me know!


8 Comments:
I don't necessarily believe that I agree with that one, because honestly, I feel that I have a number of female friends that I am not really sexually attracted to. Sometimes you just click as far as views and opinions and behaviors and it is that understanding that causes the friendship to last. Not saying that the other reasons for a friendship don't exist, but I think there may be more choices than the four that are listed...
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Maverick, at 14/4/05 7:17 AM
lol@ Lindsay. I would love to see the look on your face if you ever offered anyone of them a chance to sleep with you and they all said yes. I think men and women can be just friends. I think they just usually don't. Women want sex with guys they're comfortable with. And men want sex from whatever woman's putting out. Like you said attraction goes beyond the aesthetics. So if you're comfortable enough with someone you will naturally find something attractive about them and then in the right circumstances anything can happen. I've had some kind of physical intimacy with almost all of my platonic friends. And mostly out of convinience. We're attracted to people all of the time and we have natural desires. But we can't very well open ourselves up physically to everyone we're attracted to so when the urge overtakes us we seek the people we're closest to often times just cause there's already foundation. However, that does not mean that that is necessairily the way it will work out. I'm not saying that getting with your friends is a bad thing at all, but if people would supress their desires they could very well maintain a platonic friendship without any kind of deviance. But if you're sexually attracted to someone you're "just" friends with why not have some fun?
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The G Perspective, at 14/4/05 4:40 PM
I kind of agree with these theories jonestu. There is some kind of attraction there for you to even want to be friends with someone. It doesn't necessarily have to be some kind of physical attraction, but you are attracted to that person's personality. Most of my guy friends I'm not sexually attracted to, and never have been, but I get along so well with them, because there is a part of their personality that is attractive to me (draws me to them)that makes me want to maintain a relationship with them on a friendship level, and nothing more. If I'm making any sense at all.
Nady
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TheSaga, at 25/4/05 7:50 AM
yeah, i've seen guys/girls be damn good friends platonically. they think each other is attractive but look at each other like bro and sis. it's possible but i dont know if it's for everyone. in fact, it's kinda rare. email me sometime, chica. my email is on my profile
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TheSaga, at 25/4/05 7:53 AM
Cool Post. I always say that it is damn near impossible for women and men to have a pure platonic relationship, but that theory is ruined because one of my best friends is a girl. I thought her and I never liked each other more than a friend level, I thought that our friendship was of the purest variety. Until she told me recently that she had a 16 year crush on me and I almost vomitted because I think of her as my sister. Sorry for the long rant.
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The Humanity Critic, at 10/5/05 3:23 PM
Shit, I always say I think men and women can be just friends, but when I think back on my guy friends that I thought were EXCELLENT, they have all been like example number 2, with the guy proclaiming his attraction and or "love" for me. Then we turn into the other one where only one party is attracted. So dammit I just don't know anymore. I would like to think so but when I think about my guy friends now, I can't think of one who my above statement wouldn't apply to...ok only one, and he's gay.
Damn...is it really impossible?
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Liza Valentino, at 16/5/05 8:42 PM
It's possible for a guy and a girl to be just platonic friends...
In some cases, things happen. In other cases, nothing does.
I was once best friends with a particular guy. A young and highly disciplined man of God. We were a highly notable pair. Spiritually conjoined. It was the closest I have ever been to any human being. There was a pure intimacy and holy transparency. Someone once said to me 'You and K, you soulfully fit' and in myhead I was thinking-->"flesh and blood has not revealed that to you" Then I fell in love with him, I fell in desire, in need, sexual attraction, all of that stuff. It all overtook me. I was afraid. I cried a lot. Eventually I told him. Turned out he's been praying to God that I'd become his wife. He was not fall in love[according to himself] but he desired me greatly. He had to fast and pray cos I was tough and never displayed any spousal/romantic/emotional interest in him whatsoever. I never thought I would even consider him for a spouse. But he won my heart without even knowing. He did not try to impress me. He just remained himself and I got drowned in love with him. The day I told him...1st September 2004, that was one of the most memorable days I ever had on this earth. We got engaged that day.
Long story and a spiral of events, we are no longer together. In short, sin took both our friendship and our dream of a lifetime together away.
I also had a best friend in high school. It was just too pure. Too pure. We were together too much. I had no romantic interests. He did not ask me to be his girlfriend either. We had something. And it was good. And it was enough. Looking back, I see that we were largely emotional friends, that is, we were there for each other emotionally...for those delicate issues we couldn't discuss with everyone, not even our parents.
We are still very good friends today.
We exchanged letters back then, highly charged, nothing x-rated...I think we were soulmates and lovely companions...but nothing physical happened. Not even a kiss on the cheek. Because we both respected each other and the purity of our friendship. We parted at some point, and we met again. I consider this guy a lifetime friend.
I have another friend. Well, he desired me for a wife, but I don't like him like that. I mean, I cherish him as a friend but I don't want him for a spouse. I was upset at his move to ask me out...I stopped talking to him...which is somewhat childish but I felt it was something I needed to do.
I don't have any guy friends that I am in love with. The one that I fell in love with, I believe that it was The Lord's doing. Personally, I don't want to marry any of my current guy friends. I am not interested in any of them on that level. I think my husband is someone I am yet to meet. And when we do meet, it will be marvellous.
Well, God's will be done. Amen.
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